** T.o. Was Released By Cowboys - No-OffSeason.com Forums

GRS0002 · #1 Mar-05-2009, 05:56 AM

According to the Dallas Moringing Star and Michael Smith of ESPN... T.O. was giving his walking papers. I heard this last evening, but wasn't going to post it until there were two seperate sources, since a lot of things are said about T.O. on he-said,she-said stuff.

Hope everyone listened when my discussion of Royboy being a buy low at the end of the season, because his value just went through the roof.

My big question is who does Dallas see playing next to him. Have they decided on one of the backup WR's on the Cowboys roster that have been pimped by some on this site. I won't type their names.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3953647
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/t...spx?id=4217296

GHOPS · #2 Mar-05-2009, 07:52 AM

As a Roy Williams owner....THANK GOD. If I were a Cowobys fan...THANK GOD. If I'm a Cowboys' player...THANK GOD. TO is a talent but he destroys teams. Glad to see Jerry had the balls to cut ties with him. Now we can watch as TO's career tapers off, and he plays for a team with less hype so less attention. Love it.

GRS0002 · #3 Mar-05-2009, 12:21 PM

The real question is.... how do Raiders fan feel. They are the only team that would take a chance on him. For the record, the Redskins have already declared their disinterest, so he won't be a part of the paper champions.

The seven reasons the Raiders have to sign T.O.
- T.O. would look good in silver and black
- T.O.'s attitude goes well with the Raiders
- it stops all the stupid news reports about where he is or isn't going.
- T.O. deserves the Raiders
- T.O. might teach Al Davis a lessen, which would help the league in the long run
- the Raiders actually need T.O. as a WR enough to look past the past
- and most importantly... it may take the Radiers out of the Crabtree lotto.

BoB · #4 Mar-05-2009, 03:23 PM

After the Randy Moss experiment, even Al Davis can't go for the prima-donna WR route again, surely!

It's got to be making space for Crabtree. Which could well haunt me with a 1.3 rookie pick, could i pass on Crabman if he went to OAK? But it'd be foolish to take Raider skill player? :-S

So if we take a step back, the Raiders in that last 4 months have.... given 1st, 3rd and 4th rounders (I believe off the top of my head) AND TO, and got on their roster.... Roy Williams.

Was Al Davis spotted were running Lloyds bank last year by any chance?!

GRS0002 · #5 Mar-05-2009, 06:42 PM

T.O. + (insert team name) =

Duard Weese · #6 Mar-05-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BoB

So if we take a step back, the Raiders in that last 4 months have.... given 1st, 3rd and 4th rounders (I believe off the top of my head) AND TO, and got on their roster.... Roy Williams.

Was Al Davis spotted were running Lloyds bank last year by any chance?!

BoB, this don't make no sense...

the1rat · #7 Mar-06-2009, 09:16 AM

Hahaha, how bout this TO to Giants, where Costigan slaps some sense into him and he fills in for Burress while he is doing his jail time. Then he retires.

BoB · #8 Mar-06-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Duard Weese

BoB, this don't make no sense...

Looking at the net ins-and-outs, they've got Roy Williams and lost 1st and 3rd rounders, plus TO.

With regards to the Llloyds reference: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7914013.stm

Basically: Lloyds bank took over HBOS in January to save them and prevent HBOS from having to be nationalised. Lloyds were probably about the biggest bank in the UK, and were actually comparatively limited in their exposure to the sub-prime crisis. HBOS however have continued to get hammered, and have done far worse than predicted when Lloyds agreed the takeover. As in the article above, HBOS lost £10.8bn last year.

Thus - from being in a position with a lot of potentially strong assets (TO, 1st and 3rd) they have over-paid for a DUD asset (Roy Williams) and found their strong position (in "talent level" measures) eroded.

GHOPS · #9 Mar-07-2009, 10:47 AM

Interesting analogy, however, I view TO and the rest of the Cowboys as a portfolio of assets. Because TO offered no correlation benefit, he simply added risk and upside. Now that he's gone the Cowboys have significantly reduced their risk, while forgoing less upside. Their Sharpe ratio is much improved, and generally their investment strategy is less reckless.

If you want to view it is as simply an asset valuation exercise, I can understand your point. However, this is football, and I believe you have to view the entire team as a portfolio. I would also argue that TO is a sub prime mortgage in himself: fast, misvalued, and you never know when it's going to blow up.

Duard Weese · #10 Mar-07-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoB

Looking at the net ins-and-outs, they've got Roy Williams and lost 1st and 3rd rounders, plus TO.

With regards to the Llloyds reference: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7914013.stm

Basically: Lloyds bank took over HBOS in January to save them and prevent HBOS from having to be nationalised. Lloyds were probably about the biggest bank in the UK, and were actually comparatively limited in their exposure to the sub-prime crisis. HBOS however have continued to get hammered, and have done far worse than predicted when Lloyds agreed the takeover. As in the article above, HBOS lost £10.8bn last year.

Thus - from being in a position with a lot of potentially strong assets (TO, 1st and 3rd) they have over-paid for a DUD asset (Roy Williams) and found their strong position (in "talent level" measures) eroded.

Ok, but you were talking about the Raiders and then Al Davis runnning LoL when it was the Cowboys that gave up T.O., the 1st, 3rd, and have Roy Williams. That's what was confusing me. And I'm still confused unless you meant "the Cowboys" and that "Jerry Jones was running LoL". That's all...